What dog is better for me? Rottweiler or Doberman?
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May 25, 2019 / By Cornelia Question:
I live in Wisconsin, so winters get pretty harsh, and I know doberman can't handle cold to well, and I'm also in school so I won't be able to give the doberman 1.5 hours of exercise everyday. Rottweilers require less exercise, a minimum of 30 minutes daily which I can absolutely do. But my mother wants a clean dog which won't drool and won't she's to much.
My family and will be completely devoted to training and exercising the dogs if possible, and we will do everything that my research on the breeds say is necessary. But as a 1st time dog for ME(not my dad but he had dogs awhile ago)
will I be able to be that strong confident alpha male? I will put in everything I have to train the dog, I guess what I mean is will it be enough to properly train the dogs?
These 2 dogs are my absolute favorite dogs, but I can only have 1, and so when I looked online, I found that almost everyone had different answers to everything. Some say that Doberman are good house pets, based on the statistics I feel as though a Rottweiler would suite me better. I believe I would be able to exercise a Rottweiler better, but I see that the doberman is easier to train.
I need a loving loyal dog which will protect my grandparents while I'm at school and college, I don't mean to use them for their ferocity and give them a bad name as I'm sure that people won't appreciate that, but I just hope that they will love my family enough that it will protect us from harm if it can.
Both are apparently very smart dogs, easy to train, doberman being the 4th smartest and Rottweilers being the 9th. I just need to know which one is better suited for me.
Best Answers: What dog is better for me? Rottweiler or Doberman?
Beta | 7 days ago
I will be straight with you, as that is what you want from someone who has owned the Doberman for many years and has its best interest at heart……
The Doberman needs a minimum of 2 hours daily exercise and by that I mean as an adult jogging, hiking, endurance walking, rambling, hill walking, cani-cross training because it scores high for energy level and stamina and can take as much exercise as you want to give it, needing an active household. Not fair on the dog if an owner cannot provide it.
Dobermans left to their own devices with unspent energy will drive everyone crackers, as the dog will not settle, pacing/getting into trouble, as few will tolerate a sedentary lifestyle will.
A mental workout is as important, if not more so in the breed, as it is intelligent, but that can be a curse for an owner that does not use the dog’s brain and train it, giving it something to do that challenges its mind. If a Doberman has nothing to do, it will find something to alleviate its boredom that may not sit well with its owner. They can be noisy barking at everything in the dog’s line of sight, destructive in the home and garden and miserable, and that is not good for the dog or owner.
Dobermans easy to train, yes and no. For the owner with the right personality (naturally self-confident, firm, fair, calm and assertive) for the breed, that can stay one step ahead of the dog, keep hold of the reins, understands the breed is an interesting mixture of bullheadedness, intensely driven, determination, independently minded, thinker and sensitivity, yes they are.
The Dobemran is not a breed that will cut you any slack while you learn how to train a dog, read and react to its subtle and overt body language and handling dogs in different situations, which comes from experience of owning dogs, not necessarily similar breeds, dogs in general.
Pet Dobermans look to and depend on their owners to protect them in an time of need, and if they thought no help was coming from that quarter would either remove themselves from a threatening situation, if that was not an option freeze or bark, with nothing to back it up if the bad guy kept coming or depending on the dog’s temperament, may bite defensively to protect itself.
The bond a Doberman has with its family has no bearing on how it may react in an extreme situation. Think about it, why should an untrained pet dog instinctively recognize a situation where it is okay for it to take control, step up and make decisions on how it should be handled and when to stop. Only dogs bred, evaluated and specialist trained will reliably protect their owner, including the Doberman.
There are some people who with the help of a good trainer are perfect for the Doberman as a first dog, but in many instances dogs end up in rescue because a malleable puppy matures into an adult they cannot control/do not want to put the work in to train and earn the trust and respect of.
Then there is the questions of personality, some people will never be right for the Doberman, that by nature will not always want to do things its owner’s way, less than tractable, is intensely driven because they show weak authority/pushover/inconsistent in how they handle the dog.
Research both breeds thoroughly by reading up on them, contact the breed clubs for information, attend sport clubs/championship shows as a spectator and talks to owners and breeders, as they will give you the unvarnished truth of what it is like to live with a Doberman or Rottweiler and the bad points are as important to consider as the good.
If one stands out, contact good breeders that produce quality dogs (cheaper dogs can work out more expensive in the long run) and by appointment arrange to meet them with your family, spend time with adult dogs and see how they react to your personality.
Information on the Rottweiler - not owned it personally.
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Originally Answered: Is a rottweiler right for me?
Rotts are wonderful dogs, and from what you have said above, it seems you already know this, they MUST be trained. They are smart dogs, but they need structure and guidance. They are also very strong willed and opinionated. They are very loyal to their owner but, (and this is not every dog but Alot of them) they tend to bond with 1 person specifically. So he might bond to you, but not to your wife, or the other way around. I know pit bulls can be great dogs, but i work at a vets office, so I see all sorts of breeds, and the one that almost always gets aggressive in a stressful position is them. I dont dislike them, but i also dont trust them. I have had swiss before. They are a wonderful breed! I would continue looking. My aunt breeds them in north carolina. I would suggest continuing the search. Dobermans are wonderful dogs as well, much like the rott in that they need structure and training. some other great breeds to look into are...
Great Dane (very protective, but fun, affectionate and intimidating looking.They have a great temperament
English Mastiff (pricy, but agian, great temperament. They are sweet, gentle as can be, very intimidating, and very protective of their family.)
Burnese Mountain dog (same as swiss, but long haired)
Hope that is helpful.
I have a doberman. He's 4.5 years old. I had another doberman several years ago. A doberman needs to be an indoor dog, especially where you live. I recommend if you decide on a doberman, you needed to commit to socialize the puppy extensively, begin basic training as early as 3-4 months old, and ensure good vet care from the moment you get the dog. This is a smart and capable breed. However, both my dobermans past and present display a strong will and mischievous behaviors (love the smart and funny things they do), They need a confident, capable, and loving owner to take the time to train and provide a suitable environment. A doberman is a powerful, intelligent and loving dog, with the right owner, a doberman can be a wonderful member of the family. I suggest you find a doberman rescue facility near you and go spend some time with a few dobermans there to see if this is the right dog for you.
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Why would you want all those traits in one dog? Especially aggression - aggression is a genetic FAIL. NEITHER would be good for a first time dog owner. Especially when it is painfully obvious that the person looking at the breeds has done ZERO research on either breed. It comes down to more than just being "trainable", "stubborn", etc. Both dogs have different energy levels and both dogs do not suit the every day dog owner's lifestyle. Both breeds are good breeds - it's personal preference. They require LOTS of time, patience and training. A LOT. Start with a fish. ADD: OMG!!!! It just really angers me that there are people out there that have these ideas on Rotties and Dobes and HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT! It's these people that end up buying these breeds RUINING them and then dumping them at shelters! And I don't know what kind of "experience" someone would have with a Doberman when they label them as hard to come out of a negative experience. No lady, YOU had a poorly bred crap Doberman. AND FYI - aggression has nothing to do with lack of training and socialization, it's GENETICS!! You can't fix genetics!!
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Rottweilers shed tumbleweeds just like labradors. Dobermans shed almost as much and if your mom likes wearing light colors prepare for her to complain about the black hairs. If you are concerned about alpha training you haven't done enough research. Dogs naturally follow whoever they have a bond with (which can be achieved through training and play and general caretaking). They don't need to be beat up by an "alpha" bully to be great dogs. Either breed needs lots of exercise but you should take care in their first two years not to overwork them due to their hips and joints. Are your parents the type to pay the vet bills for a torn ligament? I'd say the doberman might be a tad better since your mom seems to want a little less dog than a massive rottie. Don't worry about WI weather if its an indoor dog. There's plenty of dobermans around WI.
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I love those breeds as well.
Before you pick any breed, do more research on both. Don't only focus on how much average exercise each needs, or how easier they are to train. Each dog is different, each litter contains a bunch of different temperaments and personalities, you may end up with a stubborn pup who isn't that easy to train and constantly challenges you.
If you put enough effort, time and dedication into either breed. And if you run into issues you contact a trainer, then either one you will be fine with.
Each of those breeds, can be bullheaded, can develop issues with possessiveness and aggression. You must be a confident leader, firm yet fair. They have to know where they stand in the pack, you have to be the alpha, or they will walk all over you.
Also, you have to consider, will your grandparents be able to handle the dog when you're not around? For that case alone, if you do end up with one, I would enroll it in basic training classes. And socialize A LOT.
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I've had a Rottweiler for 8 years. He doesn't drool much but he sheds like crazy! They may not need tons of exercise but they need a lot of attention. They are not the kind of dog that you can leave locked up and alone all day while you are at work or at school.
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Originally Answered: Anyone know this Rottweiler breeder?
The best thing to do would contact the Rottweiler club of America and see if the folks are still members of the club.
Look at the AKC registration papers you have and the breeder will be listed with their full name.
If you lost the papers you can call AKC and have them look it up for you.
Just as an FYI beware of anyone that calls anything but an imported Rottweiler "German". That is the sign of a backyard breeder.
Deciding On A German Rottweiler
There are a few large differences between the American and German Rottweilers. The registration of a German Rottweiler is the biggest different. Finding the best breeder is the most important task.
Simply put a German Rottweiler is a dog that is born in Germany while the American Rottweiler is born in the United States. However, there are a few big differences between the two forms of Rottweiler's. The biggest difference with the German Rottweiler is the fact that any dog born after June 1998 has a tail. Aside from the tail the breed standards between the two breeds are nearly identical so don't be fooled by backyard breeders who claim the size, heads, bone and temperament of Rottweilers is different between the German and American breeds.
The German Rottweiler comes from the old breed of Roman drover dogs and the modern Rottweiler breed originally started in Germany. Today many of the Rottweilers are still bred in Germany and many U.S. bred dogs are imported from Germany. The method of registration, tracking and breeding is the biggest difference between the two forms of Rottweilers. When it comes to appearance there isn't much difference.
In the United States two purebred dogs can be bred and the litter registered with the American Kennel Club. However, in Germany only the breed warden can approve the breeding of two dogs. This breed warden is a representative of the national Rottweiler club known as ADRK (the official German kennel club), which personally oversees and approves litters. A litter cannot be registered without the warden's approval. At eight weeks of age every puppy is tattooed with a number that is then used to track the dog throughout his or her life. In order for a German Rottweiler to be bred they need to meet specific criteria. This includes an obedience title, hip and elbow clearances, a conformation evaluation that includes weights, measurements and proportions, a written evaluation by an ADRK judge and a temperament test. If a dog fails a test and is still bred then their offspring can never be registered. And all information is kept within an annual book along with the ADRK database. The database keeps track of all registered Rottweilers in German from birth to death.
Although whether the dog is German Rottweiler or an American Rottweiler getting a top quality dog is always a balance of genetics, pedigrees, knowledge, experience and little bit of trial and error. What really makes the difference between the American and German Rottweiler is the individual person's breeding program. There are some breeders that focus on dogs for working ability, some for soundness and genetic health, some for temperament and yet other for structure and type. Although the best breeders to look for are those who try to breed for all of these qualities, they are not always successful.
*****There are a lot of breeders who claim to have German Rottweilers when in reality they are backyard breeders. This is why it is always important to ask to see certification and then check that certification before you adopt any dog from a breeder. Always consider the breeders code of ethics and makes sure you are getting a dog from a reputable breeder and not a backyard breeder.
ADD: Rotten- I have been blessed with two Rotties in my life.
Heidi who lived to be 13- she was dumped at my ranch at just over a year old and
Pebbles who came to me when she was 7yrs old and lived to be 14, she passed away 3 years ago this month. (the owners were moving to a place that did not allow dog-were willing to let her go to pound which had automatic kill policy on Rottweilers- my pet sitter intervened and asked me to "Foster" her-which of course lasted for 7 years. = )
My goddog is a Rottweiler as well- a 2 year old named Gunner.