Should I join the U.S. Military?
Topic: Business plan for college class
July 24, 2019 / By Brigham Question:
Alright, so I realize this isn't something that can be decided through a Yahoo! answers board, but I might as well ask to get some advice. So here goes...
I'm 14 right now (starting my freshman year at high school), but already thinking about my future. I would consider myself rather ambitious; I plan on eventually running my own business, and have a burning desire to be successful. This is mainly fueled by competitiveness and a need to be better than others, though success does appeal to me for other reasons. For the past three years, I attended what I consider to be one of the top middle schools in the country; I took pre-calculus, economics, spanish, world history, physics, chemistry, biology, and English. I was top of my class in these, except for chemistry. The main point of what I'm saying is that I surpass most others academically. Because of this, my parents have always urged myself and my brother (who performs similarly) to strive for Ivy league colleges and the like, and discouraged us from joining the military. Of course, this topic has never really been discussed, but any mention of possible enlistment has pretty negative reception from them. During the past few months, however, I have felt a heightened interest and respect for our troops, and been seriously considering enlistment. This has been constantly on my mind.
My main reasons for joining would be patriotism. I love my country, though I do feel it is losing its way. Freedom is indeed something worth fighting for, regardless of my opinion, and men of the past have been willing to fight, as should I.
However, I am uncertain whether the military is the right place for what I wish to pursue; either some form of finance or law. Frankly, I might be off to a better start at a decent university.
What I'm trying to ask from that lengthy piece is: Is the military the proper path for me? Will it get me where I want to be? Or am I better off pursuing my goals elsewhere?
Oh, and also...physical requirements. Since May of last year, I've consistently worked out at least 5 days a week. 3 days weight training, 2 days running before school. In the past month or so, I've been
running 5 miles a day, 5 days a week, and lifting three days a week. And that's not to difficult. I'm in better shape than most my age, weighing approximately 160lbs at 5'11.
Thanks for reading that spiel, please answer.
LarrySmile, thanks for the detailed answer. I definitely will consider what you're saying, it does make sense. Though I still feel that it is a duty to serve...
MML, I appreciate the positive feedback :)
Best Answers: Should I join the U.S. Military?
Ahiram | 3 days ago
NO. You should not join the military.
Your goals are quite "lofty."
You have a desire to open a business.
That means that you should go to a good college/university that you can excel in (Top 10% of your class) and not go to a school - too difficult where you will end up in the bottom 50% of you class.
Then, you NEED those next 8 years to get started on your "business plan."
Without a "Business Plan" you get no loans or start up capital.
If you enter the military you will do 4 years of your early life and nothing you do in the military will help you "much" in your business plan. You NEED those early years of being single and working 18 hours a day and not having to do things that others tell you to do. It would drain your creative energy from you.
Physical fitness has nothing to do with anything. It is great to be physically fit for the military as well as being a citizen person. Being healthy is good for YOU.
Now, if you really want to be patriotic - you need to grow a business to such success where you can HIRE other Americans and provide jobs for them.
That is true patriotism. We military people defend you so you can do what it best for the country.
What is best for the country is to have a society that is advancing and growing.
Today we are slipping behind. We are in stagnation. The government can not provide all the jobs for people who need jobs. The government doesn't invent anything. The government doesn't grow anything. The government doesn't sell anything.
The government just consumes things. And, the citizens must pay for it. But, the citizens can not pay for it if more than 10% of the population is not working! Sure - we must have certain government services and the military is one that is essential above all others. Lest some other country get the notion that "they" are powerful enough to come and attack us and take us over.
So, you seem to have benefits of a good family and access to a good education.
So, in high school strive for the highest grade point average you can get.
GPA 3.8 - 4.0
ACT of 29 - 32
SAT of 2,000 - 2,100
And go to a business school.
Lawyers? A dime a dozen. Leaches on society and only needed when they are needed.
Lawyers don't hire people hundreds of people and make products.
Some lawyers are needed. We have enough of them, anyway.
We need more doctors rather than lawyers. But, being a doctor is only for a select group of people who can invest 12 year of nothing but study 18+ hours a day.
People in finance don't open businesses and hire a thousand people.
When you are an entrepreneur you are the most important person in the world.
Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Ret.)
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Originally Answered: I want to join the military but need some help?
I live in Portland too, and I hate to say it, but there's no where near here that they would station you. You will probably be sent somewhere for boot camp, and then stationed or shipped out to where they need you. One thing that I would highly recommend though, is getting your college degree before you enlist. I personally didn't want to wait 4 years after high school before enlisting, so I'm getting my BA degree through online courses and George Fox courses too. ROTC is a great idea to start getting involved as well. Personally, I take tactical and combat training instead, but that's because I'm going for the CIA, and you need to be educated as well as meet the special forces standards to get in. Anyway, having brothers in special forces, I naturally favor those branches. MARSOC is the marines SOF, and they tend to do more covert and dangerous operations than the others. SEALS is another extreme that I would recommend, those guys are just plain bad***. You'll always have the choice of where you want to go, it just depends on how hard you are willing to work for it. I chose CIA because I'm a girl, and want to actually do something that involves combat. Anyway, talking to your recruiter is a good idea, they won't try to screw you over, just do your research. And if you don't choose SOF, try Marines. Good luck.
I would think that a parent's reason for not wanting their child to enlist in the military now, especially active duty, is because you'll most likely get deployed if we are still at war when you enlist and that is a scary thought for any parent. I know because I have familiy members that have been deployed and we worried daily about their safety. Some things to think about are whether or not you want to join as an enlisted soldier, or go to college first and attend OCS if you qualify so that you can enter as an officer. I would suggest going to college and getting your finance degree (if that's what you want) and if you still want to enlist in the military then you can find out what you need to do at that time. You sound like a very determined young man and whatever you decide to do, it sounds like you will be successful! Good luck!
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if you want to, go ahead dude, even you can study a career with the army, like USAFA or something.
When I was 18 I had to take a choice, something like you, be or not a military, I choose not to be one but that was in México and there is another different thing so I thing I choose the good one, however I'm looking for the successful
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Yes. BUT join the military AFTER going to college and get accepted to OCS. You will learn to be a man either way, but the military give you the BEST leadership skills available.
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Originally Answered: SHOULD I JOIN THE MILITARY AT 30?
I think you should look at both the active military as well as the Air National Guard. Both offer some great education benefits for you and any active military enlistment also includes health care for you and your family. However it will still be tough on you financially the first several years because of your lower rank during that time frame. Once you get to your mid NCO ranks,E-5 and E-6, then things get a lot more rosy financially for military members because of the increased pay. Getting to that rank could take several to twelve years depending on what service and other things. That and the other drawback is that the military can be very hard on young married couples and their children. Military life includes a lot of stressors like extended family separation for instance that you don't have in civilian life and so the divorce rate is quite high.
You might also look at the Air National Guard. Enlisting in them carries no full time benefits medically but does allow you to earn a few dollars more for attending drill every month. Again the pay is quite low in the beginning because of the low rank but it does also carry with it some great federal as well as state education benefits for college and trade schools that you could then use. However you are leaving your job and company for Basic and also training in whatever job you enlist for and might not have a job to come back to once that is completed and you are back at your Air National Guard unit. Also enlistment in both the Guard and Reserves is different in the sense you actually enlist for a specific job vacancy in a unit. Some jobs and the training you get then can set you up with a better job when you return back home so I think that also needs to be explored. Enlistment on active duty is not the same in that sense and you don't enlist into a specific unit ever and unit job vacancy at all. Instead its a little more like a crap shoot and what the active duty has open and your test scores qualify you for is what you are then slotted into. For the Guard and Reserves you only need the qualifying test scores and pass the required physical for the job. I would also favor the Air National Guard over the National Guard because they have more in the way of more technical jobs that would give you better in-like training for then finding a job on the outside upon your return after Basic and tech school. Also the Air National Guard is more education minded and progressive in their approach to things than the National Guard and its general mission of combat support and augmenting the active duty Army.
If and when you talk to active duty recruiters you should ask if a six year enlistment will give you a guaranteed job enlistment contract. It might and with the qualifying test scores for it and passing the physical you might be able to get a better job with better training that carries over into the civilian world later down the road. Granted it's six years instead of four but two more years is not that long in the relative scheme of things.
So I have given you a lot of info here very briefly to think about and do some research and reading on things about what I have condensed here for you. Also be aware that an active duty recruiters job is to recruit. In some ways dealing with them can at times be like playing poker or buying a car. It best to be smart and know a little about the above things as some recruiters can be unscrupulous about getting someone to enlist. They only keep their job in recruiting if they meet their quarterly quota on a recurring basis for getting individuals to enlist. So do your research and homework and avoid enlisting for something that might not translate into a good job on the outside later. The make a lot of jobs look interesting and challenging and some are while others are not like that all the time or translate into finding a good job later in the civilian world.