What do you think of this quote?
Topic: Hypothesis defined
May 22, 2019 / By Bailee Question:
"I don't believe in a continuum between male and female. It has become very hip to postulate continua, and often it seems for the simple reason to get rid of the burden to define categories. In this case, up to now, I've never seen a convincing attempt at parametricizing that continuum, so it remains a belief-system rather than being a halfway credible working-hypothesis. Also I'm a bit suspicious about the motivation to pick out male and female as the poles of the continuum: looks like an attempt to save the old dichotomy by camouflaging it a bit. If we tried to account for all the parameters relevant to the 40+ syndromes we're dealing with we would end up with a multidimensional categorial space, and the poles w/ respect to the gonadal parameter probably would be something like agonadism and streaked gonads as in gonadal dysgeneses such as Turner's or Swyer's, w/ respect to the karyotypic parameter we probably had something like 45,X at the center of the system of coordinates and all kinds of mosaicisms branching off to yield a real mathematically complex graph :-) ..."
-- Heike Susanne Bödeker
Ze was talking about intersex/variations of sex development but apply hir logic to whatever aspect of gender/sexuality you like. Would you agree, disagree, conditionally agree, just have a general comment?
Yeah, it is kionda wordy, to boil it down ze's criticizing the idea of a "gender spectrum" with male and female at opposite ends of and saying if you tried to make a visual model of intersex conditions it would be really complicated and standard male and female wouldn't neccesarily be the poles.
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Ada | 9 days ago
Hmmm... well for one thing, defining categories for something or things doesn't change the reality of what it actually is. It simply changes the way we choose to view it in order to make it easier to digest. You probably COULD eventually come up with a model that kind of sort of works that's multi-axial as opposed to a simple male-female dichotomy. But even assuming you had a working multi-axial concept of gender, it wouldn't accomplish the goal of making gender easier to understand. I don't know if I really believe gender is a continuum either. There very well might be 40+ different categories with only limited connections between them.
I think that gender is complex enough that you're never going to be able to establish a grand unified theory of gender. Any model that's accurate is probably too unwieldy and complicated to serve any purpose.
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I agree, but with two conditions. First, a complex spider diagram of sexuality is not very useful to everyday purposes - mostly we want a simple, generalised, spectrum with which to anchor our discussions - unless one is having a deep and analytical discussion about gender and sexuality the spectrum model will suffice. Secondly, once one starts getting into such complicated structures it begins to become clear that the relative placings of "male" "female" "butch" "effeminate", "androgynous" "transgender" etc are very much subjective and to some degree arbitrary. Finding an agreed upon structure would prove impossible, I am sure. Really, such terms and identities only have the meanings we bring to them, and the relations we create. Male and female themselves are plastic concepts, which often seem in deep discussion to boil down to nothing but chromosomes.
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well, i think it highlights the amount we just don't know about biology. cultural definitions of gender and sexuality being placed on biology create the limitations shown in the quote. it's human nature to categorize and put things neatly in a box, but it's not mother nature that chooses to do so. of all the living things on this earth, only a subset of the animal kingdom is placed into rigid sexual reproduction. perhaps the reason we have the genetic-gender variety is simply a reflection of our asexual evolutionary roots.
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convolution, the art of self deception, with enough talk you can convince yourself to not be what your are. if on the other hand you make a self determination to behave in a deviant fashion relavent to all others, well, that of course is ok.
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Originally Answered: Does a quote need to be in dialogue within a book for it to be considered a quote?
Anything which you copy out from the book is a quotation, regardless of whether it is said by a character or is part of the narrative. The first line of Pride and Prejudice - it is a truth universally acknowledged that a single man in possession of a good fortune must be in want of a wife - is not said by anyone, but I have just quoted it here.