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Pet birds: I feel guilty. Is adopting a bird really taking away their freedom?

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May 22, 2019 / By Carlie
Question: Do you feel it should be illigal to adopt pet birds. I have been feeling really guilty, should I adopt one or not? Spinderella: I live in the UK in London. I don't know. I was told to adopt from a breeder and not buy them from a pet store. Is this seen as the same thing? I know of no shelters around here so don't know what I can do. Most shelters I found on the site don't have birds :(
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Andriana Andriana | 10 days ago
I do believe that, in this day and age, we are too irresponsible for such intelligent animals as birds, and that birds should not be kept in captivity. I strongly believe that if the pet trade had never started pushing parrots and birds on us, and dumbed down their needs to make them more desirable; and if more people were to tell people the truth about keeping pet birds; not just what they want to hear, then more people would think and research before making such a commitment; and there would not be overcrowded parrot rescues/shelters that are forced to turn away 30 birds a WEEK who have severe behavioral problems; becuase they are jam packed full of unwanted, once-were-pet Cockatoos who had such behavioral problems that they would go deeper than plucking their feathers and actually chew threw their chest and mutilate their keel bone/breast bone. Birds are wild animals; and if it is illegal for us to bring a tiger into our house; I believe there is no difference from that than us keeping birds, crippled/deprived of the one gift that they were given that sets them apart from us, and locked in a prison for crimes they never committed, other than being sought-after. I think bird-keeping is very rewarding, don't get me wrong. I have been into birds my whole life. I think birds CAN benefit from being our pets- I don't think ALL birds have it bad, and that ALL owners have no idea what's going on in Aviculture; but I do think that the percentage of parrots/birds in captivity that are treated badly or are in less-than-satisfactory conditions, daily, and the lack of animal cruetly laws for parrots in the United States more than outweighs those of us who are keeping their birds in healthy conditons. Did you know that it IS legal, in most of the US to fry your parrot up for dinner, if you wanted? There are no laws in the US that pertain specifically to parrots; so you can do just about anything you want to/with them, and there's a loophole in the cruelty/neglect laws to set you free and unscathed. Adopting is a great choice. Don't feel guilty about it- In fact, I think adopting is the only GUILT FREE way of owning birds. The birds in rescues are in desperate need of homes. They were given up by their former owners, they never HAD freedom to begin with. By adopting a bird, and providing him with a better life; you're not taking away his freedom; you're giving him a life he never had a chance to have. By not buying them from a Pet Store, you're doing Aviculture, as a hobby, and birds, as a species, a favor by not supporting the mass quantities of birds that are produced every year in order to satisfy the pet store's thirst for young, sweet, baby parrots; who are easier to sell than the adults with behavioral problems. And most of all- Your parrot will be in a loving home, and you will be able to heal whatever emotional scars he may have, and thus you both will be great advocates for shelter birds, and the potential that they hold as pets that are just as good as, or greater than, buying a baby bird from a pet store or breeder. By chance- What state do you live in? I know of som very good sanctuaries that you can visit that will tell you ALL you will ever need to know about parrots in adoption facilities, in the wild, in the pet trade and in captivity, in general. Good Luck- I hope you find the right bird for you. And I know this doesn't petain to the topic at hand, but "Mama Surf" or whatever sent me a nasty message yesterday, claiming that I am too mean to the people on these boards.. So I am going to set the record straight; I think that unless you have personal experience with all the bad that's going on in Aviculture, you'll have a very distorted view of the things that are really going on, and the issues that are very real. Bird Talk magazine has been voted the number one source of information for bird owners out there; and that magazine gives a very filtered view on what Aviculture really is, in these days. They seem to forget to mention the Sanctuaries who are out there, working tireless 60 hour weeks, for petty pay, who are trying to save what we all have ruined. Instead, giving breeders and pet stores the entire back of the magazine, pushing all of their readers to buy rather than adopt. They seem to think that keeping you bird Fully Flighted is a 'dangerous' thing to do, for the bird's sake. Keeping a bird's wings clipped is severly dampening the bird's overall health and wellbeing- Not just for physical excersize and obesity, but becuase birds' bodies were DESIGNED for flight. Their resperitory systems were built to work with the motion of the wings flapping, and the keel bone is the most sensitive area on the bird's body- and birds deprived of flight for years; they can land on the ground too hard ONCE and break their keel bone & die- Birds who have been given the chance to fly will have muscle mass built up around this delicate area, so it will not be suseptible to breaks & injuries. Yet Bird Talk refuses to publish THIS in their health columns, and even has captions in the back saying that if you send in a picture of a bird with fully flighted wings; they refuse to publish it. I think that those of us who know the truth about what's going on, and the situation that birds are in; mostly due to the fault of the Pet Trade, which is a multi-billion dollar industry; mind you; that Aviculture has suffered a great blow. Everyone who enjoys birds should be coming together and helping out the greater good; not pretending that the people who come in here asking stupid questions like, "My Budgies had babies.. And now they are rejecting their young- How do I handfeed?" are plausible questions that should be answered with a description with how handfeeding is done. I am sorry, but breeding birds and handfeeding should be STUDIED, thouroughly, PRIOR to letting your birds mate! Bottom line; Stupid Questions get Stupid Answers, Mama Surf/Smurf. I apologize that this is so long; but I thank anyone who has given their time to read it. EDIT: Ohhhh. The UK. I live in the US. I can get into contact with some one who can get you the name of a bird rescue over there, if you want? Adopting from a breeder is not the same thing as rescuing from a shelter- but it IS better than buying from a Petstore. And better than buying from a Pet Store!
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Andriana Originally Answered: I feel guilty for there mistakes I feel guilty for mine I dont wanna live in my paranoia of things?
You need to see a therapist. You need more help than you will find on YA. Go see a doctor - ask your parents to take you to one. Peace.

Whitney Whitney
I would not dunk it in the water. Maybe try to set it on it's feet in the water. Don't force it to stay. Just keep trying and trying that, than maybe sooner or later it will come too, that the water is not going to hurt it. If that does not work, get a spritzer bottle, like for flower and vegetable seeds. You want a fine mist, not a stream or regular spray. A stream or spray could be to harsh and cause the bird pain. You want just a mist. Most birds loves a fine mist shower, it is like the rain. Mist the bird all over like a shower, talk to the bird while doing so in a soothing voice, letting the bird know it is ok, and say oh don't that feel good? That feels so good! The bird should grow to love the showers, and it may even get the bird so use to the water, it might take to a dish of water. My birds loves the misting! They also like to bathe. Good Luck!
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Sander Sander
it depends on what you mean by adopting. do you mean adopting a parakeet from an animal shelter or getting one at a petstore or adopting a bird that was wild and can no longer return to the wild? if you mean having a parakeet may be bad, i completely disagree. the people who try and say nobody should own pets, i think are completely unrealistic. you arent taking away their freedom, they werent born wild, and have only ever known cage life,, except for maybe a little while if they escaped and were lost. but during that time, they probably had no idea how to survive. they are dependent on us, and in some cases really love their owners when taken care of right. why should that be illegal? some people completely depend on their bird for companionship, like elderly people. {parakeets imported from a different country are not what i am talking about} if you meant wild birds, who are injured either mentally (for some reason dont know how to survive), or physically (unable to survive; broken wing/ deaf etc.), that cannot go to the wild, thats different. i do not think that any old person should be able to get an owl, crow, seagull, hawk, falcon, blue jay, cardinal, or any wild bird that was once living happily in the wild. only people with special permits for rescuing these anikmals should be able to adopt them. because they really arent pets. i hope i answered your question.
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Nandy Nandy
If you are opposed to keeping caged birds, don't support the breeding market. Avoid pet stores. 99% get their animals from huge breeding mills, where cruelty, neglect and poor quality are often the norm. Please don't feel guilty about adopting.. There is an over-population of tiels, many homeless birds are available for adoption from rescues and shelters, or are waiting to be rehomed from private owners. Check petfinders and craigslist. http://www.petfinder.com/ Cockatiels are not native to the US, They are domestically bred, and are born into captivity, not freedom. Since pet birds are not native to the countries where they are sold, it is illegal and cruel, to release them into the wild, where most perish - or worse, adapt to the environment and become a feral species like the Monk or Quaker parrots. Wild native birds are not permitted as pets. http://www.animallaw.info/statutes/stusm... Here are some of my favorite websites for cockatiels, and other parrots. Research should be done before considering any new pet. http://www.cockatiel.org/ http://www.cockatiels.org/ http://www.cockatielcottage.net/ http://www.cockatielsplusparrots.com/mutations-genome.html http://www.tailfeathersnetwork.com/ http://www.birdsnways.com/ http://www.birdchannel.com/ Birds require vet care, like other pets. Here is a link to find certified avian vets in the US: http://www.aav.org/ Good luck to you!
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Kenton Kenton
i have 2 rescue birds. i let them hand out outside of their cages. i give them a lot of attention. they are fed, have clean cages, starting to talk , and are in good health. i keep their wings clipped because they do have issues because of their past, and i for sure wouldn't want them to get outside by accident. i know that have a much better life than before.
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Horsa Horsa
I own 2 quaker parrots. In some U.S. states, Quaker parrots are illegal. In California, wild quaker nests are destroyed during winter, when it is too late for the quakers to rebuild and they freeze to death. I am satisfied that I've saved 2 lives. Feel free to adopt! You aren't punishing them, you're helping.
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Elwyn Elwyn
see ,if adopt it from someone who has already kept it in cage ,then it's better to keep him ,then to let him fly ,if you let him fly ,some eagle would eat him or he would not be able to get his food. if you have any more questions about pets contact me at [email protected]
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Cleve Cleve
no but you should bath it with a misting spray as soon as you get and make sure you feed it little farms,kaytee,and 8in 1 food best to feed it seeds and pellet and moulting & conditianing food and let it have a mate and take it to the vet yearliy(2 times the least).from the hottest boy ever me
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Cleve Originally Answered: What kind of bird is good for a person who doesn't know a lot about birds?
There really is no good bird for someone who doesn't know a lot about them. Anyone considering a pet of any sort should do as much reserch as possible on the personalities, care, feeding, veterinary needs and concerns, housing requirements and lifespan of any pet they are considering. If you are thinking about a bird, start by going to pet stores. Do not BUY a bird from a pet store (when you are ready to acquire a pet, get one from a breeder), but use it as a research tool - see what size birds there are, and see if there are any you find particularly interesting. Then, get on the internet and research the species fully. See if it has a personality that will be compatable with your lifestyle. Some birds, such as cockatoos, are extremely loud and needy birds. They demand a lot of attention, even if you have more than one. Other birds, like finches, are quieter and do not require the hours and hours of interaction, but still are time consuming, if cared for properly. Some birds will be with you for a relatively short period - they have a lifespan of 10-25 years. Other birds are a lifetime commitment - they can live over 75 years and you will leave them in your will to your heirs. Be certain that you know a lot about an animal before you make that type of commitment.

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