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What did it take to succeed as a USAF PJ?

What did it take to succeed as a USAF PJ? Topic: Medical writing as a career
May 26, 2019 / By Cate
Question: I've had many ambitions growing up. I've wanted to be a pilot (now what self-respecting USAF child doesn't, right?) Missionary, medic, (military and civilian) cop, EOD (okay, I admit it, mom talked me out of that one...>_>) and many other things. However, I've never, unlike all those other careers, managed to talk myself of a career in Pararescue. Something about it I can't quite explain. Something about being a Wingman for the entire world. Being there for stranded civilians in Haiti and New Orleans. Pilots downed within enemy territory, Force Recon/Seals/all the spec ops in the Army. Nasa landing in the ocean. Anybody. I loved the thought of being a medic there for anybody in the world. Right now, I'm Avionics on the C-5. I'd like to get ready for a future as a PJ. I've talked to several men who got a medical reclass from PJ. While I am the type of person to normally think that there's no better way to find out if I got what it takes then to try, I've heard too much about the pipeline. I know how many people graduate. I've heard seemingly cruel, gruesome, and what I can only describe as...sadistic stories of the pipeline. Now, I don't care how reckless or gung ho you are. Now remember, I'm the kind of guy who, if I were a general, I'd probably write a book about the tactical genius of the fabled military hero, Leeroy Jenkins. I gotta be honest with myself. How the heck do I got what it takes to stay sane threw that...? I know many of those guys who up until the first night, said they had what it took. I understand that it takes a freaking lot of determination and motivation. My entire flight, and even most of all, my ti back in bmt said I had those. But, lets face it. There are a heck of a lot of guys out there bigger and crazier then me. (and not to mention nearly ALL OF THEM are taller then me D<) So, I do understand that there's no fail safe super secret magic bean that will guarantee that I make it. But, I would like to hear, preferably from people with experience, what they had to rely on. I can't afford to try to deceive myself into thinking that I can do literally anything I want to if I put my mind to it. I simply don't believe in that, certainly not after talking to people who dropped out. I feel that I have to be reasonable with myself, and be honest about my weaknesses. For one thing, I have trouble working in a negative environment. I'd rather work in the desert or the tundra working with close friends before living in Hawaii, working at a job with bad co-workers. I have a problem with exercises like flutter kicks for some reason- I feel more comfortable running 10 miles then doing a couple sets of 60 flutter kicks. I don't know what I'm going to do trying to manage a thousand at a time, other then be honest with myself over how much that's going to take for me not to quit. I can't quite explain why it hurts so much, but I find those extremely painful. I had a lot of trouble in bmt with the schedule, which I understand is easier then the pipeline's, due to me having no chance to get (this related to my trouble working in a harsh environment) to actually find something positive. Something funny, someone with something constructive to say, a friendly conversation, anything. Over time the constant discouragement really took a tole on me. (My friends also told me that the instructors are pretty much Drill Sergeants who found out that you killed their family last night.) So I know I've got a lot of things about me that will get in the way. I want to hear it straight, if that's possible. Does it take nothing other then a seemingly inhuman reserve of motivation and determination? Does it take nothing more then refusing to quit, or complete confidence in one's self? What kind of people quit on themselves? Was there something those few who succeeded knew or did that carried them through? I want to hear honest opinions, because if there's something in me that would come in the way, I'll change it. If there's something I should keep in mind before going in, I'll hold on to it. If anybody can speak for experience in Pararescue or any other spec ops, or may have heard something that may have been said by someone who heard something that might have been something sorta related, please share it. Oh wow. I hadn't heard about the drowning. That's intimidating! You know, I've gotten this feeling before. It seems to me that I've already lost the second I thought that not graduating was even a remote possibility. Now, the way I am, I look at it like statistics show that it's utterly impossible not to think of it statistically. That's great about the crapping lightning and all, but that just doesn't help much. I'll read that going check, check, check, check, (in a most modest and humble manner, of course >_> and never actually know if I got what it takes. =/
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Annabell Annabell | 5 days ago
It seems to me that everyone wants to be a PJ. Be out here kicking ***. You show people you are one of the best. However, I went through technical school with about 4 people who were PJ dropouts. Its a little funny if you ask me, they went from the best field job you can get to being reclassed into a desk-job paper-pusher. From what I've heard, you have to ask yourself if you really are ready for it. 95% of people who join training for PJ are not ready for it(its a 95% drop-out rate.) They aren't ready for the constant physical challenge, the psychological torture they put you through like lying on your back doing flutter kicks for 5 minutes while you wear a mask filled with water. They aren't ready for challenges like the 1-mile run down to the river bank where you have to throw yourself into the mud and mud yourself to the trainer's standards...usually equates to 3 trips. And most are definitely not ready (and this is where the big dropout is) to be forcibly pushed under water in the pool, and literally forced to drowning-point and then be resuscitated...roughly 3-5 times or so. Some people get through the first one, then realize how terrible it is and back out. Backing out though is failure, and you get kicked from PJ. PJ is one of the most psychologically intense training that you can ever be exposed to. You can't just "want" to do it, it has to be your 'life'. By that, I mean that failure doesn't even exist in the equation. Because if you 'ever' have 'any' doubts about PJ (and I mean this seriously) you 'will' fail.
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Annabell Originally Answered: Into the USAF with a BA?
It would be hard to get into the AF with a commission with a BA in Film, with a 3.3 GPA. The AF OTS average GPA is 3.5. Why not just contact an AFROTC program at a Univ with a Engineering School. 2,3 and 4 years AFROTC scholarships are available. It would be almost impossible to complete an engineering degree, while on active duty. You would have to be stationed near a engineering school, and trying to take a engineering course load, while working every day, would be very hard to do. Even getting the first two years , is hard, since most univ's without an engineering school, do not offer calculus based physics and Chemistry. The AF gets most of its officers from the academy and AFROTC, So AF OTS is looking for people with specific degrees and knowledge. But the only way to find out, is talk to an officer recruiter.
Annabell Originally Answered: Into the USAF with a BA?
Your degree often has nothing to do with what you actually do in the service. I am AD Navy, majored in English (with a good number of Engineering core classes), and am currently serving as a division officer for the Main Propulsion plant of a destroyer. Talk to an officer recruiter who will be able to better help you, but you should be able to pursue any of the career paths in the AF or Navy. The only possible exception may be nuke (Navy), as you need a pretty solid engineering knowledge base (and even then Charleston is very tough). What do you want to do? In the Air Force, you could look into an engineering or research position; in the Navy, ask about the Engineering Duty Officer option. There are really a lot of choices for you. Having a BA rather than a BS won't limit you much at all. Best of luck!

Winslow Winslow
To be an Air Force PJ you have to: 1) Have your balls screwed on tight. 2) Eat fire and craap lighting. 3) Meet height/weight and medical requirements.
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Winslow Originally Answered: Would becoming a SF in the USAF?
Yes it could but their is no guarantee you will even get the MOS for SF. Even if you do. You may have to go to school still. Most local and state departments require you to pass a physical agility test which involves situps, pushups, and running. These can be difficult or impossible if you have not been training before the test. If you are a female or lack upper body strength, be aware that you will be required to perform 28-35 consecutive pushups in 1 minute, which varies between each department. You will also have to do 35-40 situps in 1 minute and complete a 1.5 mile run in anywhere from 10:45 to 12:25. The application for the department you are applying for should detail the exact standards that are used for their particular department. During some department's physical agility testing, such as the NYPD, you are required to run a course set up as if you were on the streets. This course is timed, and you must meet or exceed this time in order to continue to the next step. There is usually a sand dummy used (weighing up to 200+ lbs at times) at the end of the course which you must drag or carry a certain distance while wearing a weighted gun belt. Practice running a full-on active course (walls, fences, steps, tires, etc.) and then at the end, try to move a dead weight jointed sand dummy more than 15 feet. You'll be amazed at how difficult it is. So practice! Wear a weighted belt as you practice to get used to the extra bulk and weight - usually about 20 lbs will do for a realistic feel. The written test is mainly focused on how well you can remember details (as well as how good your written English skills are). They want to know that when you give a description of a person (i.e. suspect, victim, etc.) that it is as accurate as possible. This is very important to your job. Pay attention to the small details that most people usually forget or never even notice. You can practice this at a park where there are "walkers" (someone who is walking a track, and will pass you several times). Take a pad and writing tool with you, sit on a bench near the track and wait. When someone passes you on the track, watch the person (don't stalk him or her, you may get the real police called on you!). After the person has gone out of sight, write down all you remember about him or her. When the person comes back around the track, see how well you did. Always try to do the right thing when working as a certified police officer.
Winslow Originally Answered: Would becoming a SF in the USAF?
In all actuality no, SF in the USAF will not help you with a law enforcement career. However, the Office of Special Investigations (a division in the USAF) can help you if you would like to go into Federal Law Enforcement. In order to get into the OSI you first have to be in the USAF. As one other said, an Honorable Discharge is the best thing you can present to a police department, no matter what your job was in the military. Always remember, the military rules, regulations and laws are completely different than any local law enforcement.

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